England name team for second Argentina test


Marland Yarde will win his first England cap against Argentina this weekend. The 21 year-old from London Irish comes into the side on the left wing to face the Pumas at Velez Sarsfield in Buenos Aires on Saturday.

Bath Rugby’s Kyle Eastmond, who made his Test debut in last Saturday’s 32-3 win in Salta, will start for the first time in the No.12 shirt vacated by Lions-bound centre Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby). And fly half Stephen Myler will win a first cap if he comes off the replacements’ bench.

England are bidding to secure a first series win in Argentina since 1981, when Bill Beaumont’s tourists drew the first and won the second of their two Tests.

Head Coach Stuart Lancaster said: “It is great to reward young players who have pushed through this season. They have worked hard to earn their opportunities on this tour. This is a young England side which made a very positive start to the series in Salta. But we expect Argentina to come back very strongly in front of a big home crowd. It’s a great challenge and one we are all looking forward to.”

ENGLAND TEAM v Argentina, Buenos Aires
15 Mike Brown (Harlequins, 17 caps)
14 Christian Wade (Wasps, 1 cap)
13 Jonathan Joseph (London Irish, 5 caps)
12 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby, 1 cap)
11 Marland Yarde (London Irish, uncapped)
10 Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby, 2 caps)
9 Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, 8 caps)
1 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 11 caps)
2 Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 4 caps)
3 David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 27 caps)
4 Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 10 caps)
5 Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)
6 Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 19 caps, captain)
7 Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors, 1 cap)
8 Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 11 caps)

16 David Paice (London Irish, 7 caps)
17 Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)
18 Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks, 1 cap)
19 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 21 caps)
20 Billy Vunipola (London Wasps, 1 cap)
21 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 13 caps)
22 Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
23 Ben Foden (Northampton Saints, 31 caps)

23 thoughts on “England name team for second Argentina test

  1. should be another victory, exciting to see eastmond and jj play together in the centres for england before they join up at bath

    the lack of youngs and care really does expose england at 9

    1. i think Dickson has been pretty good.

      good service, good kicking. nothing spectacular, but arguably a bit more consistent than Care and Youngs. He is a more pragmatic player.

      Also, lets not forget Joe Simpson was overlooked for this tour. he too is a pretty exciting 9.

  2. To be honest I thought we would see Foden come in. He looked bright when he came on last week, and I assumed him and Brown would get a test each.

    Other than that, not surprising, I’m happy with Eastmond getting a chance, and also Yarde is a very good player, and Strettle looked poor last week.

    1. i expect that brown is there for two reasons.

      A) a bit of solidity and consistency among all the exciting young backs.
      B) a hard/physical runner to come into the midfield. JJ has bulked up, but they will still want someone cutting hard lines. Brown has kind of moved away from this style of play, but it used to be his speciality for Quins, so i would expect him to do it a bit more.

      1. Not sure I agree on the first reason for Brown, as Foden has more caps that anyone on your. Admittedly in the 6N and AIs Foden wasn’t around but he is still an experienced England international, more so than Brown even.

        Maybe it is a bulk thing, but Brown is not massive either.

        Not sure, and I will say I have no issues with Brown, I was just expecting to see Foden there.

        1. I didn’t mean stability and consistency in terms of experience. I more meant in style of play.

          Foden is an exciting counter attacking fullback. Brown has definitely become more like this, but he is more or a pragmatic “safety” player than foden. (I should point out, I am a saints fan, and think foden is great)

          I just think that browns ability to play conservative rugby may be useful in a back division that has some very exciting players. All of the backs, 10-14 have been given the tag “x-factor”. I think that term can sometimes be a bit backhanded, because what it means is – this guy can do some real magic, and some really bad things too. Brown is less x-factor, more solid.

          Brown is no Manu in terms of bulk. But in the past he was a dominant strike runner for quins, often choosing to try and go over someone rather than round them. As I said, he has changed this, but he is still more of a “bulk” player than the rest of the backs (I might exclude yarde from that, as he is not small).

          I too expected to see foden, he has done everything to try and get the start. I just think that SL has gone for a consistent selection, both in style of play and a bit of continuity in selection.

          1. Makes sense I guess. I really hope come the first AI test match, Englands back line is:

          2. It’s a valid point Simo, but I think it terms of the longer term view it would be more valuable to get our world class full back back into the team, he’s been out of the international game for a full year. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce him missed.

          3. i agree with you Matt and Jacob.
            Foden is a world class player, and with a full team, i would probably pick him over brown.

            I think the consistency of selection has been a certain factor. also, once again it is a time when its hard to drop a player who has done nothing wrong (although unlike in the 12Ts situation, the one on the bench is in better form)

            i think, once we have a full compliment, and these younger lads have a couple of caps we will see foden back at 15.

            another reason for brown over foden that has just occurred to me… possibly the idea that foden is deemed to provide more of an impact off the bench. this is something i am finding increasingly annoying about the modern game. you cannot afford to have a better player sit on the bench for 60mins just because he provides a better “impact” off the bench. if he is the better player, on better form, then he should be starting from minute 1. this one is just a theory as to why its happened – as you can tell from my rant, i am not an advocate of this technique.

    2. Actually you make a very good point here, I didn’t think about Foden & your right he did do enough to warrant a start in the second test.

  3. I think Foden is all round England’s best full back. Fantastic time in 7s and looked great at Sale, but he’s just stepped on and gotten better since going to Saints. Don’t know how he lost his place. You don’t usually get injured and just get displaced by a new player, I don’t think Brown has really shown good reasons why he should be at FB over Foden. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a decent player, but I think Foden is a brilliant player.

    1. Completely agree, Foden is looking sharp again now. Brown is solid, reliable and does all the basics well but an on form Foden is world class. Think this is a poor selection by Lancaster, it’s a bit back to the Phil Dowson one of giving a “deserving” player every opportunity, even though he’s not setting the world on fire at international level.

      Reasons Foden should be in:
      – He carries the ball in both hands, so better at bringing support runners into the game (Brown may run well, but his runs are more likely to end in a tackle and ruck)
      – He runs better support lines so more likely to get on the end of an opportunity.
      – Better broken field runner, probably similar in terms of straight line pace but a far more elusive runner than Brown.
      – He actually scores some tries (7 in 31 caps Vs ZERO in 17 caps)

  4. Matt,
    Brown has played most of his England games out of position on the wing so perhaps a fairer comparison would be AP stats where Brown beats Foden in every single stat despite playing 1 less game.

    1. Yes he played out of position …. on the wing …. where you are supposed to have an even better strike rate than at fullback. Foden also moved out of position in SA onto the wing …. and scored a try.

      I’m not anti-Brown, he was fully deserving of his chance based on excellent prem form. I wish he hadn’t been moved to accommodate Goode and it has no doubt compromised his chances of securing the shirt. 17 back 3 caps without scoring a try just isn’t cutting it though and he’s blocking a player who has proven to be far more effective at international level. Let’s look ahead ….

      After this weekend and before 2015 RWC we have:
      2013 AIs (3 tests)
      2014 6N (5 tests)
      2014 summer tour to NZ (3 tests)
      2014 AIs (4 tests)
      2015 6N (5 tests)
      2015 RWC warm ups (2 or 3 tests)

      So 20 tests before we do our RWC warm ups and an aspiration to be a top 2 side in the world by the end of 2014 (in 15 tests).

      We aren’t going to be a top 2 side in the world by picking players that wouldn’t get anywhere near the starting line ups of the top 2 sides in the world. One English player took one of the available 11 centre and back 3 places in the original lions squad, the rest weren’t good enough. Too many of the precious caps have gone to Goode and Strettle in particular but Brown, Ashton (on current form) and Barritt to some extent as well. We can’t keep dishing out the caps waiting for something to happen whilst delaying the development of the real world class potential (Wade, 36, May, Yarde, Daly etc)

        1. Would prefer this to not playing Foden at all, but think that Foden’s running style through the middle, ball in both hands is best suited to FB. I like the express pace of May for the left wing (combined with him having some skills under a high ball and a kicking game), but congrats to Yarde for grabbing his opportunity and jumping to the front of the queue.

  5. Strettle gone (for good hopefully) and Eastmond over the more safe option of Burrell is really pleasing.

    I’m prepared to give Brown ano chance. He’s waited a while to get a chance at fb so maybe that was a factor in his rather selfish performance. However the way Foden played he’s really going to have to up his game to keep his place for the Autumn unless they resort to Goode *shudders*

    1. Goode has to be binned with strettle. Not totally though.

      A decent club player, and someone who could answer a call for England if injury strikes (after brown, foden, tait, daly and maybe a couple others)

      Maybe Goode needs to move clubs and play 10. That way he will be in a shirt more suited to him, and he can bolster the options there.

      1. The few games I saw of him at 10 for sarries I thought he showed promise. Aren’t Wasps in need of a 10. Many an international career has been resurrected there. ..

  6. Isn’t it good to see someone from the Windies playing international rugby though :) Also very impressed with Atwood in the last test, very much an enforcer but most impressed by his talk, realising what his job is (RFU website for the interview)

  7. Makes me want to write an england full back column. Its nearly as close as the lions yet I rate Hogg so highly id start him anyway. Mind you, the article would have to be written in a home nation sense than a northern hemisphere one.

  8. Wow, that is an exciting looking back line. Eastmond is a great operator at 12, and I expect to see him back up Burns in his distribution of the ball a lot. He also has great speed over the first few yards, and will catch the Argies by surprise.

  9. Looking forward to the game. Beginning to think that England have two international players at every position, although wing and centre are the shakiest part of my premise. Therefore particularly looking forward to Eastmond and Yarde getting a proper run out.

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