England Saxons name team to play Scotland A

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The England Saxons have picked the following team to play Scotland A this Friday in Newcastle:

15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps)
14 Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
1 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton Saints)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers)
5 George Robson (Harlequins)
6 George Kruis (Saracens)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens)
8 Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers, captain).

Replacements:
16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins)
17 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)
18 Kieran Brookes (Leicester Tigers)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)

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12 comments on “England Saxons name team to play Scotland A

  1. Why is it that the players from the EPS squad get sent back to their clubs and not down to the Saxons?

    Surely they would be better off playing within similar systems, that run through the England setup, than having to continually flip between their club and international environment.

    • It’s a good point, but I’m not sure the systems are that similar. As far as I’m aware, they have their own coaching set-up and therefore their own systems/moves etc.

      It’s a good suggestion though. The problem would be that the boys who had been training all week together with the Saxons would all of a sudden have a load of the senior squad coming down, and they probably wouldn’t have long enough to gel. Reminds me a bit of teams playing ‘ringers’ at uni level!

      • I watched some RFU thing the other day where they were talking about how they were trying streamline all the systems and plays at EPS, Saxons and even age level. Rodgers’s original assumption is correct.

  2. Yeah the assumption that the systems are the same is a big one.

    I just look at that team and think a lot of those players aren’t anything close to the test side. The extra 7 players going back to the clubs plus injuries makes it more of a 3rd string squad than 2nd.

    I guess it’s purpose is probably more about player development and looking at prospects than putting out the strongest team available.

  3. Agree that its more about development. A couple of years ago, you’d have seen Marler, Launchbury, Robshaw, Wood, 12T and so on in the Saxons side

    So it seems to work

  4. Agree, JTH was crap last time out.
    He’s trying to be a muscular center in the mould of Manu/Nonu, when in reality he’s just a bit fat.

    Also, the Saxons IS a development side.
    Hence changing the name from “England A” to Saxons. It’s not a second team, that’s why you have Crane and Wigglesworth in there.
    You need those constants in order to judge the new guys.

    • Nobody has claimed that the Saxons isn’t a development side and although it’s irrelevant if it’s a 2nd XV or not, I think you’ll find that it is.

      The discussion is more about the way the current setup leaves a gulf inbetween the two match day squads.

      Where players such as Kvesic and Billy Vunipola, who have no caps and are still young ‘development’ players, actually end up playing for Worcester/Wasps at the weekend whilst supposedly lesser players get the development game time in an England shirt.

      • Well no, it’s not a second XV.
        And it is relevant to the question of “why are Wigglesworth and Crane in there but Kvesic/Vunipola aren’t”.

        Billy Vunipola is injured, and they clearly don’t think Kvesic will gain very much from playing with the Saxons.
        That’s why I felt it pertinent to make the distinction between an “A/2nd team” team and a development team.

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