Monye dropped as Lancaster trims squad for Australia

The following players have been released back to their clubs this evening, leaving a squad of 23 to prepare to face the Wallabies on Saturday:

England RugbyAnthony Allen (Leicester Tigers)
Mouritz Botha (Saracens)
Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby)
Alex Corbisiero (London Irish)
Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints)
Phil Dowson (Northampton Saints)
James Haskell (London Wasps)
Jonathan Joseph (London Irish)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)
Ugo Monye (Harlequins)
Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby)
George Robson (Harlequins)
Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby)

The 23-man squad for Saturday’s game will be as follows:

FORWARDS (13)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs)
Joe Launchbury (London Wasps)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
Tom Palmer (London Wasps)
David Paice (London Irish)
Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers)
Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers)
David Wilson (Bath Rugby)
Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)
Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

BACKS (10)
Chis Ashton (Saracens)
Brad Barritt (Saracens)
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Danny Care (Harlequins)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers)
Alex Goode (Saracens)
Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby)
Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Chris Ashton in for Monye is the only real change, with Ben Morgan still not involved.

27 thoughts on “Monye dropped as Lancaster trims squad for Australia

  1. SL has gone for a settled feel to the 23. I guess you can’t blame him too much. Monye was probably the only one in a vulnerable position not to do themselves any favourslast saturday. Interesting to see if there are any changes in the starting line up other than Ashton.

    1. Launchbury to start instead of Palmer? Other than that, can’t see anything – although I would have rather Morgan came in for Waldrom…

  2. So the whole of Britain sees Morgan as a potential Lions back rower except for Lancaster?

    I’d like to credit him with sense for dropping Monye, but he was a fool to pick him in the first place.

    1. Totally agree – the second I saw that he’d picked Monye, I shook my head – haven’t we seen it all before? There are some you just know can turn it on at club level on a good day, but will never be able to sharpen up to go another level. Sharples was on fire and looked like he would destroy anyone getting between him and the try line. Explosive. Sharples, Ashton and Goode has the potential to be an explosive back 3. Can’t wait.

  3. I think Lancaster does see Morgan as potentially a great player, but he needs to work on a lot and he obviously thinks Glaws is the best place for him to get some game to work on this.

    Would still like to see him play at least once in these AIs though…

  4. I hope SL has sent Lawes, Corbs,Morgan and JJ home to prove their fitness rather than him not rating them has highly as people in their respective position as they are brilliant players.

    1. I think Morgan is the only selection choice. The rest are forced.

      Morgan had starts ahead of Waldrom in SA and everybpdy called for his head. Lancaster is giving Waldrom his chance now. If he doesn’t perform against Australia, I’d like to see Morgan back in as his prem form has been much better.

      1. I think he genuinely rates Waldrom more highly than Morgan at the mo. This is England’s best chance for a win out of the next three matches, so surely he must be putting out what he considers his strongest team?

        1. Yes, I think Lancaster considers Waldrom stronger. I think (and hope, because otherwise I can’t see any sense in it) this view might taken whilst considering the back end of last season, particularly the SA tour.

          On that tour Morgan was good, but Waldrom came in for the third test and made a difference – he was part of the team that got a draw. So maybe that has gone in his favour.

          Having said all that, based on the premiership so far, I’d pick Morgan.

  5. Disappointed by Waldrom selection. The only way it would make any sense was if he picks a Tigers axis at 8 9 & 10 but no doubt Care will get picked. Don’t rate care at all. His passing and game mgt is appalling and he should be banned for that haircut alone

  6. Morgan isn’t the finished article yet, but he’s better than Waldrom is. Let’s hope SL proves me wrong yet again, I thought that Goode, Monye, Palmer would be bad picks last weekend and they all didn’t do too badly. Hopefully Waldrom shows why SL is picking him!

  7. Agree brighty, if thats so he should come to his sense soon as waldrom is at least 30+ and is already the finished atricle, and an average one at that. Morgan has plenty of time to develop could make 2/3 worldcups.

    Good to see Launchbury and Vunipola retained their places though.

    1. It seems to be a common mistake to think that Waldrom is going to be too old for the world cup – he’s not over 30 yet.

      Perhaps his ability and acheivments in the Prem to date give people this impression? Or maybe his fat chin?

  8. If Waldron plays in the next world cup I’ll happily get kicked in the face by king Jonny. At Toulon of course.

  9. I would like to see Sharples and Ashton on the wings, two instinctive wingers. Sharples played some intelligent rugby on Saturday and now has to back it up against Australia if picked.
    Given his performance on Saturday, it would be very difficult to drop Goode, but Brown is good at punching holes in midfield from deep and is a rock at the back. It depends what SL wants from that position, guile or power.
    Barritt showed better hands and is clearly trying to develop his attacking skills.

    1. Barritt’s game has improved a lot this season, mainly because he now has a natural 13 playing outside him at Sarries, and it’s taken some of the pressure off. I would like to see Barritt with Jospeh outside him.
      Also I think this week we will see Ashton running lines in midfield off Barritt.

  10. I think Waldrom is in because of added experience and maturity more than his ability. There must be something that Morgan is still not getting right which Waldrom does, and Lancaster sees it as something crucial to the position. Given Morgan time, he will be the first choice 8, but he’s still young. Corbisiero, Joseph and Lawes we know have only just come back from injury, so not worth the risk. Ashton is pretty much a dead cert to start, but I would like to see Launchbury in for Palmer. Parling definitely helps Youngs in the line out, but Palmer was pretty ineffectual last week.

  11. Personally, I think Waldrom’s club form has been better than Morgan’s this year. Watching the last few Gloucester games I’ve seen a lot of Morgan getting isolated and losing ball in stupid areas of the pitch and you can’t do that in tight games. I wouldn’t mind seeing him on the bench as Waldrom can cover 6 or 7 which would give suitable cover in the back row. That said, backrow is a pretty strong position for England at the moment and I don’t think Lancaster wants to drop any of the players in that position.

    The talk of the 2nd rows and 8 in the last game being poor though, I think, is artefactual. It was a very free running game so ultimately rucking was crucial to keep ball and the ball was going wide a lot. You only usually notice the hard work of 4,5 and 8 in the lineout and the big carries, of which there wasn’t a lot at the weekend. I expect all 3 to come up and look better. To tell the truth, I didn’t notice Launchbury doing much more than any of the others when he came on.

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