Having thought that English rugby could not get much worse, South Africa made sure it did on Saturday with a 42-6 win at Twickenham.
It was a very traumatic afternoon, when the team with around 60% of possession scored just 6 points and conceded 42. The World Champions were outstanding and physical, playing the game at a ferocious pace, whilst England were lumbering, ponderous and naive.
So where did it all go wrong? Danny Cipriani was poor, but is he to blame? Is leadership still an issue? Does Steve Borthwick warrant a place in the team, let alone the captaincy?
Let us know what you think.