
It’s still early days, but with the announcement that Warren Gatland will once again take charge of the British & Irish Lions, it starts to focus everyone’s mind on next year’s tour.
With a full season of rugby to go including Autumn Internationals and a Six Nations cycle, it is far too early to say who is likely to be on that plane but it’s not too early to discuss some of the challenges the selectors need to overcome when choosing the squad.
CHALLENGE 1: SQUAD SIZE
How many players to take is always difficult to balance: on one hand you need to have enough players in the squad to keep your team fresh with good competition for places, but on the other hand you don’t want any passengers who are not getting any game time.
History
2013: 37 players + 8 injury call ups
2009: 37 players + 4 injury call ups
2005: 44 players + 5 injury call ups
Gatland says
“The important thing is to try and get things right off the field. If I go on tour and know I’m going to start in one of the first three games, I feel like I’m in the shop window. There are a lot of things we learned in the past. We need to find the right balance to have enough players to cover for injury. We also need to make sure the squad isn’t too big where there are players who don’t really feel part of it.
My suggestion
With some players arriving late on tour having been involved in domestic finals, and the packed tour schedule with strong opposition throughout, there’s an argument for Gatland to take two full matchday squads – I would take a 45-man squad to New Zealand. Clive Woodward was criticised for doing just that in 2005, but in this case, there should still be enough opportunity for every player to be involved in 2 or 3 games before the tests start, and given the certainty of injuries, late call-ups for replacements may not always be necessary.
CHALLENGE 2: POSITIONAL BALANCE
Conventional wisdom tells us that a with a 5/3 bench you are looking for about 55% of your squad to be forwards – with a 45-man squad that means a 25/20 split. Using the 2 full squads methodology you would be looking at 8 props, 4 Hookers, 6 Locks, 8 Backrow, 4 Scrum Halves, 4 Fly Halves, 4 Centres, 4 Wings, 2 Fullbacks and 2 Utility Backs which is a 26/19 split. Personally I prefer to have a more forwards in my squad as it is attritional up front so you need to rotate more.
History
| Tour | PR | HK | LK | FK | N8 | SH | FH | CE | WG | FB | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AUS 2013 | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 37 |
| RSA 2009 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 37 |
| NZL 2005 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 44 |
Gatland says
“It’s about getting the balance, it’s a long way to go and you need to be able to guard against potential injuries.”
My suggestion
| Tour | PR | HK | LK | FK | N8 | SH | FH | CE | WG | FB | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NZL 2017 | 8 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 45 |
Given the strength in depth and versatility of the players available at Lock and No.8 I have only chosen 5 specialist flankers. I have also opted to select an additional winger as the potential candidates are versatile enough to cover multiple positions, however the additional utility back could also have been named in the centres or at fullback
CHALLENGE 3: BALANCE OF NATIONALITIES
Be it Woodward’s side dominated by English, Gatland’s Welsh bias in Australia or fans’ anger over a token scot in the squad, nothing has caused more ire and debate amongst Lions fans than the split of nationalities of the squad. This tour has the potential to quiet the fans, and with players from all four nations putting their hands up for selection the final tallies could be closer than they have ever been before.
History
| Tour | ENG | WAL | IRE | SCO |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| AUS 2013 | 9 | 15 | 10 | 3 |
| RSA 2009 | 8 | 13 | 12 | 4 |
| NZL 2005 | 20 | 11 | 10 | 3 |
Gatland says
“It’s easier to select players who are coming in from a winning environment with a lot of confidence. It’s the same when you are picking captains.”
“If you picked the squad now, there would be a large number of Englishmen.”
My suggestion
| Tour | ENG | WAL | IRE | SCO |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| NZL 2017 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 8 |
Based on recent form you would expect to pick slightly more English players, but that could all change by the end of the 6 nations. The key aspect is to tear down the national walls and rivalries and get everyone to leave their egos at the door. In reality, the players will be selected regardless of nationalities, but I believe having an even blend will improve the Lions’ chances.
CHALLENGE 4: EXPERIENCE v FORM
As you would expect with a squad comprised of the best of four nations, the tourists are normally mainly comprised of very experienced International players. Although there have been a few bolters in the past, it is very rare to find a player with fewer than 5 caps in the squad and I have not found anyone who has leapt straight into a Lions squad without first donning their national colours (although Christian Wade came close).
History
I could only find data on the last two tours.
| Tour | <10 caps | <30 caps | <50 caps | >50 caps | 1 Lions Tour | 2 Lions Tours | 3 Lions Tours |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AUS 2013 | 6 | 14 | 12 | 10 | 11 | 2 | 1 |
| RSA 2009 | 5 | 10 | 9 | 16 | 9 | 3 | 0 |
Sir Ian McGeechan clearly favoured experience in 2009, although Gatland included more players that had been on previous Lions tours in his 2013 party.
Gatland says
“The players that have been on previous tours and have some experience, that’s definitely going to count.”
“Experience does count, but you have got to be playing well.”
My suggestion
The beauty of the Lions for me is that it is never about building for the future, it is about selecting the best players on form to go and do a job. You need a mix of players who have the experience to lead and those form players picked specifically to face the challenge of the All Blacks.
CHALLENGE 4: EXPERIENCE v YOUTH
While experience is massively important it is no good having players in the twilight of their career just going through the motions. From young players just breaking through, to grizzled veterans looking stamp their legacy, what you need is players with a point to prove who are going to give their all to the task and commit 100% to the Lions.
History
| Tour | Age <23 | 23-24 | 25-27 | 28-30 | >30 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AUS 2013 | 7 | 11 | 13 | 8 | 6 |
| RSA 2009 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 14 | 10 |
Gatland says
“Apart from obvious names, there will be quite a few others come into consideration by the end of the season.”
My suggestion
There have been some exciting young players break through to their national squads in the last season and there may be more come next summer with their hands held high, so I would expect the average age of this Lions squad to be one of the lowest we have seen.
What are your thoughts? What do you think makes for the perfect Lions squad?
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If your Gatland? Pick the whole Welsh team and pick maybe 5 token players from England,Scotland,Ireland.
Didn’t McGeechan take uncapped Earls in 2009?
Wiki says
“Earls made his debut for Ireland in November 2008 against Canada in Thomond Park. He scored his first international try with his first touch of the ball”
Really interesting article. Thanks for that
Jacob – there used to be a tradition of taking one uncapped player on tour but sadly it seems to have died out
A shame as it was one of those things – like Lions tours themselves and the Barbarians – that seemed to set rugby slightly apart from other sports.
yes that used to be a thing up til the 2001 tour. will greenwood was the last uncapped player selected for the Lions in 1997
Love the tradition – for some reason I thought Earls had gone as uncapped in 09, clearly not!
All irrelevant. The lions will get smashed
I strongly disagree on Point 3. You need an established spine and a gameplan, as Gatland proved in 2013. What he got from the Lions were a few players he was perhaps missing for Wales, as well as an enhanced competition for places that helped push the Lions over the line in a way that Gatland has been unable to do with Wales.
I’d suggest taking the entire first team from one nation, as Gatland (nearly) did in 2013, taking the Wales first team, less Biggar, add Tipuric. You’d then want to take a balance of players that can play the same gameplan and a few players with a point of difference in case you need to change something.
Looking at Gatland’s 2013 backline, he had Phillips, Roberts, Davies, North, Cuthbert and Halfpenny from Wales and decided to slot Sexton in at 10. Then, he called up as close to like-for-like replacements he had with Murray (abrasive 9), Farrell (organised 10), Tuilagi (direct 12), O’Driscoll (intelligent 13), Maitland, Bowe (bigger, athletic wingers) and Kearney (safe pair of hands at 15), while calling up Youngs and Hogg who offered a slightly different style.
In the end he went with 5 of the Welsh guys for the final test, but they would have been spurred on by greater competition from the likes of O’Driscoll, while by bringing in Sexton and Bowe he solved a couple of problems his Welsh team had, with more creativity in the 10/12 area and right wing, where Cuthbert is no more than decent at this level.
All Gatland proved in 2013 was that he could get Wales+Sexton over the line against possible the worst Aus side in decades. James O’Connor was their fly half…
Repeating the way he way back then in 2017 would doom us to fail, and miserably.
By excluding all nationalities other than the Welsh to represent the Lions down under where they would then proceed to wave the white flag and voluntarily capitulate all three tests to a eugenically superior rugby race – New Zealand! No opposition is allowed!
The fact that Gatland delivered a winning Lions Tour with a mass of Welsh players in 2013 still grates on the England fans and the English establishment in general.
These people easily forget that Woodward’s ‘English Lions of 2005’ was a total disaster.
In 2005 Wales were GS champions and England came fourth with P5 L3 that year.
Yet Woodentop filled the Lions with English players many of whom had been beaten by Wales, France and Ireland, were coming back from injuries, were out of form or past their sell-by date.
Playing an injury-prone Jonny Jesus of Nazareth over Henson was total nonsense but no England fan will ever admit that about Woodward or Jonny ‘One season’
In 2013 Wales had won the 2013 6n and dismantled England in the final game 30-3…utterly utterly destroyed them to a man.
Had England done that to Wales and won the 2013 GS England fans would expect/demand their players formed the core of the team. Fair enough if that had happened but it didn’t.
It was Wales that won that game by that margin and still English people cannot bring themselves to say yes in 2013 Wales did really well in the 6n and should and did provide the bulk of the Lions team. A team that won its 1st test series since 1997.
In 1993 England lost to Wales and Ireland in the 5n yet still dominated the Lions squad/test team and we know again what happened in NZ that summer then don’t we?
England fans need to grow up and accept the facts of history as they are.
Wales performed miracles for a long period in the 6n. Yes they did! I’m certainly one polyglot Englishman who can say it! England did learn from their 30-3 thumping though!
However, to be honest Gatland’s team never won much against the Southern Hemisphere teams. Getting one over the English should no longer be the parochial ‘be all and end all’ of Welsh rugby as I fear it has been for many years. That beggars a very myopic outlook that will only hold back the evolution and progress of the whole!
The Welsh team need to kick on and scale new heights against SANZAR teams. The lack of a large national playing pool can no longer be used as the perennial excuse either! Especially as it isn’t going to get any bigger any time soon. Mrs Merkel unfortunately in charge of Welsh rugby!
The amount of rugby parochialism on here (least of all from Don P, a closet NZ supporter of Wales) is proof of it if any were needed!